Dear Loyal Readers:
No, I've not returned to full-time bloging, but I am dropping by to provide an update.
After my last post about this TypePad TrackBack ping issue I got a response from Anil Dash at TypePad. I have responded.
Thanks for your response to my post "Dear TypePad".
I am pleased to see that someone who knows a lot about TypePad has taken an interest.
However, please allow me to express some concerns I have.
You indicate that because most TypePad users haven't reported a problem
means there's not a big problem. Okay, I can see that. Assuming most
users send and receive a lot of TrackBacks.
Let me ask you this: Have you tried what I reported? Have you tried
sending a TrackBack via a third party form? I'm assuming you have,
since you a proud of your testing ("we've done a *lot* of testing").
I'm certain you've tried to send a TrackBack both via a TypePad site
and via a 3rd party form. Haven't you?
You realize that if you say "no" then my point of not doing adequate
testing is quite valid. You can do a lot of testing that's not
sufficient. And that's what I'm concerned about.
So, when you sent a TrackBack to my site, what happened? I don't recall getting a TrackBack notice that you sent one.
Which tells me that either you're experiencing the same problems I'm
talking about, or it hasn't occurred to you to actually check it out.
Which is it?
And, should you decide to actually try what I'm talking about, I'll
gladly set you up an author account on my little blog, although I
suspect you have that ability. The fact no one has persued it indicates
to me this problem isn't considered major.
Well, I consider it major. And some of my readers consider it major.
I submitted my ticket a week and a half ago.Support Ticket: 084866This weekend, I asked for a status update.
Subject: Unable to send TrackBack with 3rd party form
Status: We're Working On It
You're partially right when you say the problem isn't testing. The
problem is inadquate testing. I believe you when you say there has been
a lot. I just think there's not enough of the right kind.
Again, thanks for the response. I certainly look forward to this issue
being resolved by TypePad before I resolve it with my own solution.
Your friend ... and your paying customer,
Thanks for getting in touch again. I've tested the functionality
you've mentioned on a number of other TypePad blogs, and since I
haven't written anything about your site, sending a TrackBack to your
site *would* be a spurious TrackBack, which isn't a very useful test
if you're worried about false positives.
At any rate, I've been working with the people who run the third-party
TrackBack services to make sure we can get appropriate verification
that their pings are legit, and then we'll be enabling pinging from
all users on those services again.
One interesting thing worth noting here is that you're frustrated by
not being able to take advantage of a use of TrackBack that was
totally unanticipated when TrackBack was created... it's primarily
designed to let someone know that a link has been created, but in some
cases people are using these services to send a ping even if they
haven't made a link to your posts. We'll be doing more tests on that
scenario in the future as well.
Thanks for being patient, and I'll be in touch when we've gotten this resolved.
Oh, I'm NOT interested in TrackBacks that do not link the post to which the ping is sent.
This entire issue is over legitimate TrackBacks.
While I certainly appreciate and look forward to eliminating spurious
TrackBacks, I am not at all happy with legitimate TrackBacks being
My issue is when a blogger whose post links to my post is prevented from sending a TrackBack ping.
I really don't care about and am not asking for letting improper TrackBacks through.
The fact that you think I want to allow improper TrackBacks makes me think you don't understand the issue.
Or that I don't understand TrackBacks.
Do me a favor would you? Back in August, I wrote a post about TrackBacks here:
How's my understanding? If not too good, could you suggest a source that I may have overlooked to correct my misunderstanding?
It appears that Bruce of Conservative Cat fame has dubbed the TypePad TrackBack ping issue as "Basil's Bug."
Gosh, Bruce! I'm not quite sure what to say. I'd be in favor of someone else's name on it. Perhaps the genius at TypePad that came up with this ill-concieved/ill-implemented idea. But, I guess I should say thanks and take you up on the offer for help.